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Manny Pacquiao to face Shane Mosley May 7 , 2011

FightFan76

Posted 12:34 pm, 12/30/2010

kev0

Third fight with JMM doesn't interest you at all? I'd certainly be paying attention, as long as it happens before Marquez hits 40.



Sarcasm maybe? If not, then no honestly; JMM is just not on Pac's level at this point and time. PBF is the only fight in boxing I am interested in at all. I know in other weight classes there are good fights to be had but my interest ends here none the less.....

kev0

Posted 3:01 pm, 12/29/2010

FightFan76

Outside of PBF I really dont care who he fights.....



Third fight with JMM doesn't interest you at all? I'd certainly be paying attention, as long as it happens before Marquez hits 40.

fight2night

Posted 6:58 am, 12/29/2010

Wouldn't mind seeing an upset here to be honest. I'm hoping Mosley knocks Pacquiao out.

FightFan76

Posted 5:16 am, 12/29/2010

johno

1. If Manny can't get a fight with Floyd at this moment in time and there is no suitable replacement apart from perhaps JMM at 140, then Manny should just not bother fighting. It would do his legacy and the sport much more good if he just went and done his congress thing.

2. Manny fights the loser.

Cotto who lost to Margarito

Clotty who lost to Cotto

Margarito who lost against Mosley

Now Mosley who lost against Floyd

He fought all these fighters either 1 or 2 fights removed from that loss. Will Manny ever fight someone coming off a legit win again?Margarito who lost to Mosley

Mosley who lost to Floyd



Outside of PBF I really dont care who he fights.....

johno

Posted 3:40 am, 12/28/2010

1. If Manny can't get a fight with Floyd at this moment in time and there is no suitable replacement apart from perhaps JMM at 140, then Manny should just not bother fighting. It would do his legacy and the sport much more good if he just went and done his congress thing.

2. Manny fights the loser.

Cotto who lost to Margarito

Clotty who lost to Cotto

Margarito who lost against Mosley

Now Mosley who lost against Floyd

He fought all these fighters either 1 or 2 fights removed from that loss. Will Manny ever fight someone coming off a legit win again?

Margarito who lost to Mosley

Mosley who lost to Floyd

T-Bone

Posted 9:57 pm, 12/27/2010

Boxerboy

MAN!!! its like what Chris Rock said about rap music. I love boxing, but i'm tired of defending it!!



At least The Fighter was pretty good.

http://cdn.sheknows.com/articles/2010/12/mark-wahlberg-amy-adams-the-fighter.jpg

kev0

Posted 7:45 pm, 12/27/2010

Bad decision making by Mosley and Pacquiao imo. Mosley is so desparate for a big payday, he's willing to throw away his career and a solid investment in Golden Boy for this fight. I think its a pretty safe assumption that Manny is gonna beat Mosley into oblivion, and he'll never be able to get a significant fight again. Not sure what a 4% stake in GBP is worth, but long term you have to think it would be worth more than the difference in Mosley's pay between this fight and whatever Golden Boy could line up for him. Just seems like an absolutely idiotic decision from Mosley both business-wise and career-wise. But the way Mosley has been willing to give up virtually anything to get fights with PBF and Pac, makes me think he isn't necessarily a great money-manager (surprise).

Edit: It slipped my mind that Mosley recently went through a divorce where I believe he absolutely ate it, so I suppose I have to take back a bit of my venom cuz the guy obviously just lost a lot of money. But he just made $6 million or so to get blasted by Mayweather so his bank account isnt empty, and I still believe its a bad long term decision.

As for Manny and Top Rank, this isn't a real shocker. There was now way anybody outside of Top Rank (Marquez/Berto) was going to get a fight with Bob Arum's golden child. I don't care what anybody said. Arum has a great deal with Manny and he is going to keep every penny for himself. And Manny made it clear he isn't going to making any decisions based on what fights he think wil be challenging/interesting to fans or good for boxing, its all about padding his pocket. His future opponents will all be decent names that can draw some money and serve as punching bags for him (Clottey, Margacheato, Mosley...). With Mayweather jumping off the deep end and Pacquiao going into legacy-protection mode, it seems boxing may be going back on life support for the next little while. I just hope the buy-rate for this amazingly bad so it will open some eyes, but it's fun watching Pacquiao beat people up so that probably wont be the case.

Boxerboy

Posted 9:35 am, 12/24/2010

MAN!!! its like what Chris Rock said about rap music. I love boxing, but i'm tired of defending it!! This is fight complete sh1te!! I kinda feel angry at mosely! Completely unjustified i know. but hey!

Seikan

Posted 3:15 pm, 12/23/2010

Looks like Shane will suffer the same fate as DLH, when he faced Manny.

FightFan76

Posted 1:27 pm, 12/23/2010

and yet another useless fight.....

Onip69

Posted 10:38 am, 12/23/2010

Manny Pacquiao to face Shane Mosley
By Dan Rafael

Pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao, unable to get even a response from Floyd Mayweather Jr. gauging his interest in a fight, instead will defend his welterweight belt against former champion Shane Mosley on May 7 in a pay-per-view fight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

"We came to a meeting of the minds," Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told ESPN.com on Tuesday night after a final meeting with Mosley and his adviser, James Prince, at the Top Rank offices in Las Vegas. "[Top Rank matchmaker] Bruce Trample says it's a very difficult fight. I believe it will be an exciting fight. Shane knows how to fight and how to deal with the speed. Manny is in for a hellacious fight. I really believe styles make fights."

Arum said the fight will take place at the welterweight limit of 147 pounds.

Rafael: Fight bad for boxing
Top Rank promoter Bob Arum only wants to do what is best for himself -- not for boxing -- which is why Manny Pacquiao will fight an aging Shane Mosley, writes Dan Rafael. Blog

"I know that they think I'm an old man and that Manny is going to beat me. Let them think that," said Mosley, a former lightweight, welterweight and junior middleweight champion. "I still have power and speed. They thought I was done before I knocked out [Antonio] Margarito, too. So they can think whatever they want. I know what I can do."

The deal is not unexpected. For weeks, Arum has been laying the groundwork for the match, an unpopular one with hard-core fight fans because many consider the 39-year-old Mosley (46-6-1, 39 KOs) to be past his prime after going 0-1-1 in his last two bouts.

He was routed by Mayweather in May and fought to a desultory draw with Sergio Mora in a junior middleweight fight in September.

"I hurt Floyd in our fight, but he's a great fighter and has great defense," Mosley said. "What can I do about Mora? Do you really think that was a draw? Come on. I won that fight. He ran from me all night. But Pacquiao? Come on, man. I'm a bigger guy than him and he gets hit. And you saw how I hurt Floyd. Manny is going to come forward and I will hit him on the chin at some point. His defense is not like Floyd's. Manny will come at me, and I will knock him out."

Mosley got the fight with Pacquiao over lightweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez and welterweight titlist Andre Berto. Arum had solicited term sheets from all three before going to the Philippines last week to attend Pacquiao's 32nd birthday party and to go over the particulars for all three potential opponents.

Arum said Pacquiao (52-3-23, 38 KOs) settled on Mosley during a meeting last week and that he wrapped things up with Mosley on Tuesday.

Sugar Shane Mosley will face Manny Pacquiao in a welterweight title bout May 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
"I thought Mosley was the best draw of the three and it would do the best business," Arum said.

Although Arum was critical of Mosley after his performance against Mora, he was with Golden Boy Promotions -- Top Rank's bitter promotional rival -- at the time. Once he left Golden Boy to negotiate the Pacquiao fight on his own, Arum, who has known Mosley for years and promoted some of his fights, changed his tune.

"They had to be insane, putting Shane in the ring with Mora," Arum said of Golden Boy's decision to match Mosley with a fighter with a tough style who usually makes fights with little entertainment value. "With Floyd, Shane had him in real bad trouble in the second round, so he's capable of doing a really good fight with Manny and Manny knows that. He's talking to [trainer] Freddie [Roach] about doing five weeks of training in the United States rather than four weeks here and four weeks in the Philippines."

Roach said he preferred for Pacquiao to fight Marquez or Berto before Mosley, but said of the match when told it had been agreed to, "I think it's a good fight. I feel that Shane is one of the toughest guys left out there right now. He didn't get up for 'The Contender' guy [Mora], but he will get up for Manny Pacquiao. It's a difficult fight because Shane has speed and power.

"He's getting a little older, which is in our favor, but I expect Shane to be at his best because he's wanted this fight for a long time. I will get Pacquiao well prepared for this one."

Arum and Prince said they were able to make a deal fairly easily because they like each other and, as Prince said, "We're both straight shooters. We cut out all the BS and get straight to the point. I'm excited about the fight. I plan on having a lot of fun. I think it's a great matchup. I think Shane has the speed and power to deliver and I believe we're about to pull off the biggest upset in the history of boxing."

Manny Pacquiao will defend his welterweight belt against Shane Mosley May 7 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Berto was the long shot of the three because, despite his youth, power and speed, he is not well known and has yet to face a top opponent.

Marquez, however, gave Pacquiao two exciting and bruising fights, both of which ended in controversial decisions.

They fought to a draw in a 2004 featherweight championship fight and Pacquiao won a split decision in a 2008 junior lightweight title fight. Pacquiao against Marquez for a third time also seemed to make sense because Pacquiao's fight date -- May 7 -- falls on the weekend of the Mexican holiday Cinco de Mayo, which is a traditional weekend for a major fight involving a Mexican star.

Arum said the promotion would kick off in early February with a four-city media tour beginning in Los Angeles, followed by stops in New York, Washington and San Francisco, which is home to a sizable Filipino population.

Mosley told ESPN.com that his guarantee for the fight is $5 million with the potential to make millions more from his take of the pay-per-view profits. He and Arum also said Top Rank has a promotional option on Mosley's next fight, win or lose against Pacquiao.

It seems as though Mosley's days with Golden Boy are over.

Under the terms of his deal with Golden Boy he will have to sell back his 4 percent stake in the company for $1,000, although they could wind up in court. Mosley was upset that Golden Boy was pushing Marquez, another Golden Boy fighter, to get the fight instead of him, so he went out on his own to secure the fight.


I'm a bigger guy than [Manny Pacquiao] and he gets hit. And you saw how I hurt Floyd [Mayweather]. Manny is going to come forward and I will hit him on the chin at some point. His defense is not like Floyd's. Manny will come at me, and I will knock him out.


-- Shane Mosley on facing Manny Pacquiao in a welterweight fight on May 7.

Mosley said although he owns a piece of the company, his promotional agreement is long over and he felt he was within his rights to try to secure the fight without Golden Boy's approval since it is no longer his promoter.

Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer was disappointed to hear that the deal for Pacquiao-Mosley had been made without even receiving a call from Mosley or Prince.

"Good luck. He's obviously no longer part of Golden Boy. That's all I'm going to say," Schaefer said. "I wish him luck."

In his last fight on Nov. 13, Pacquiao dominated Margarito in a lopsided decision win to claim a vacant junior middleweight belt and extend his record of winning titles in eight weight divisions.

Mosley knocked Margarito out in the ninth round in Jan. 2009, one fight before he lost to Mayweather, the opponent most want to see Pacquiao fight.

Despite Pacquiao-Mayweather looming as the richest fight in boxing history, Mayweather has steadfastly refused to take the challenge after two rounds of failed negotiations.

After Pacquiao defeated Margarito, Arum said he tried to gauge Mayweather's interest in coming back to the bargaining table, but could not get a response one way or the other from his camp.

Shane Mosley has agreed to fight Manny Pacquiao in May - ESPN

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